23 December 2010
Is science interesting?
Posted by vivienne
Does science need human interest to make it popular with the public? Today, I spoke to a woman who seemed to believe science news stories don’t need a human element because science is intrinsically interesting. She mentioned Martin Robbins’ famous spoof criticising science journalism. I think she was referring to where Martin writes:
If the research is about a potential cure, or a solution to a problem, this paragraph will describe how it will raise hopes for a group of sufferers or victims.
In this paragraph I will reference or quote some minor celebrity, historical figure, eccentric, or a group of sufferers; because my editors are ideologically committed to the idea that all news stories need a “human interest”, and I’m not convinced that the scientists are interesting enough.
Let’s assume she felt science stories shouldn’t need ‘human interest’, such as how a discovery might raise the hopes of people with a disease. If so, I disagree with her, but only in some cases.
Some science doesn’t need human interest because it’s intrinsically, well, awesome. You don’t need a small child with a rare genetic disease to get people interested in black holes, the birth of the universe or big, stompy space dinosaurs with huge horns. Society studies this stuff because it’s awe-inspiringly cool and makes us go ‘WOW’. The role of the writer isn’t to get people weeping into their cereal – it’s to capture, bottle and pass on a sense of wonder!
Silly or smutty scientific studies are another case where the news coverage doesn’t always need human interest. Everyone likes reading about sex, especially online (as Trekkie Monster said). I don’t need to say anything more than ‘squirrel masturbation’ to get the few people who haven’t read Ed Yong’s post on the subject to click on this link – no reality TV stars needed. Ed is among the world’s best ‘prawnographers’ – science writing about animal sex.
Many scientists, sadly, don’t get to spend 2000 hours watching ground squirrels playing with their nuts. Scientists in many areas of basic biology or physics are studying stuff that might turn into useful technology or treatments for disease in years to come. Their progress is slow, painstaking and prone to setbacks. Their work is immensely important and may transform the lives of our children and grandchildren. Unfortunately, this might happen in 15 or 50 years time… if at all.
The latter are the research studies that need human interest adding to news stories to make them interesting and relevant. Journalists need to mention the possible, future benefits to families and society. These ‘human interest’ reasons are why society is funding this research. The hope that their research might – in the future – save a child’s life is probably why some basic researchers get up in a morning.
The final category of science stories are about applied research, although these are normally covered by health, business or environmental – not science – journalists. Take, for example, medical technology piloted for the first time in a hospital or the go-ahead for a new design of power station. These stories are intrinsically relevant to human life – they would be meaningless without mentioning it.
The debate rages on and on about whether journalists should cover the coolness of brain research or its relevance to Alzheimer’s – even if a treatment is years away. The answer is it all depends on the field of science. Some science is cool. Period. Other science is only cool to most people because it might help their grandchildren. The role of a science journalist is to sprinkle studies – where needed – with a festive dusting of human interest… and bah humbug to the scientists who think otherwise.

Vivienne’s blog covers the latest discoveries about how the Earth’s mountains, atmosphere, coasts, oceans, ice, deserts and rivers work. Partly it’s a news source for the geoscience that climate change forgot. The rest is a science exhibition for the outdoors — explaining what we know about our surroundings.









Maitri said on 23 December 2010
Science is intrinsically interesting, but you and I feel compelled to blog about it, to tell our stories and those of science and scientists, and that is the human element.
My science blogging began again in earnest because humans are affected by nature/science and human decisions that are attributed to science. In my specific cases, New Orleans flooded and a major oil spill is still going on in the Gulf. If we scientists cannot push the science of these disasters to the height of visibility in compelling and succinct ways, we will lose the battle to help humanity through our keen understanding of reality. And that’s the point.
vivienne said on 23 December 2010
Maitri – I think I’d put your blogging in my category of ‘environment’
Research on New Orleans and the Gulf is applied science – we have photos. The human interest element is enormous and crucial to the stories we tell about the science.
Maitri said on 23 December 2010
Not necessarily. As a structural geologist who has experience in materials science, I have a lot of insight into how the levees broke and how the earth material under the levees work under fluid pressure. We don’t have photos for that, and it is a very important thing for people to understand as levees are rebuilt. Again, as a petroleum geoscientist, I comprehend certain things about well pressures, cements and blowouts. Here, too, we don’t have pictures, and if these topics are not explained in a compelling and succinct manner, you’ve lost the public and the same mistakes will be repeated.
This is where scientists, too, have little to no idea of the various subdisciplines at play in a given situation. Categorization at such times is dangerous. The more we can synthesize all the given data as well as specialized knowledge for the public and show them that this, too, is interesting because their lives and livelihoods depend on it, the better for us.
Science does not and should not exist in isolation from life and living it.
Maitri said on 23 December 2010
To put it differently and wrap it all up, science itself is interesting to those who find it so. It’s not the scientist’s job to make science interesting, but it is his or her job to make his or her work accessible.
vivienne said on 23 December 2010
Maitri, I agree
But the journalist who’d come to report on your work would probably be an environmental specialist, not a science reporter. You do applied research.
The moaning about science being interesting comes – in my experience – from life scientists working on basic science. They are looking at, say, a receptor in the brain that might have some relevance to Alzheimer’s disease. They make some discovery that helps understand Alzheimer’s better.
This discovery *might* get used by a drug company who *might* develop a test for Alzheimer’s that *might* get to market in 30 years time. This gets reported as ‘Scientific discovery could lead to Alzheimer’s test’.
The scientists get mad about the coverage, arguing that the journalist should have said ‘scientist discovers how receptor in brain works. Receptor is for electric signals that fly around our brain like little sparks out a plug. This is so cool’.
Ultimately, though, the little sparks aren’t the main reason why society is studying this receptor. We’re studying it because it might help people at risk of Alzheimer’s in 30 years time.
[Apologies for my bad life science].
Maitri said on 23 December 2010
Just tell the media this: Science provides tools. *insert evil smile*
Again, the scientist doesn’t have an audience like the science writer, he or she has a human problem to solve (or a part of it). So, making science interesting then becomes a loaded question. Interesting to whom and on what time scale?
vivienne said on 23 December 2010
Scientists have a different job than journalists. Scientists aren’t interesting/informative/provocative for a living… or I don’t think they should be.
I think the answer to your question is probably ‘interesting to funders of research when the scientist puts in a bid’…
Maitri said on 23 December 2010
Scientists aren’t interesting/informative/provocative for a living
Forget interesting and provocative (that’s journo lingo and has no place in scientific exposition), and let’s just go with informative. Scientists have to be informative and not just to their funders (which in many cases are taxpayers) but also in journals and other publications. Having read a REALLY bad planetary geophysics article in Science that somehow made it past reviewers, I have to say that the communication standards for scientists have dropped considerably. So, there is an imperative for scientists to be informative to their peers and self-educating laypeople (not your average DailyMail or cable news consumer).
When scientists remove themselves from public relevance to the extent that they have (a marketing problem, to be sure), you start to see things like funding decline and loss of respect for scientific institutions in general.
Call it PR, for the science journalists sure aren’t doing it for the scientists. At least not these days.
(Nice blog, by the way. And a great topic which I only pursue here because it’s close to my heart.
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vivienne said on 23 December 2010
I should have added ‘interesting/informative/provocative’ for the public
Funding bodies are – I understand – increasingly wanting scientists to do public outreach. But, crucially, a fair few people believe scientists shouldn’t be forced to do outreach. Some scientists are better at outreach than others and the core of a scientist’s work is research (and teaching, if they’re in a university).
Clear technical writing is critical for many professional jobs, not just science. And, yes, standards should improve. But where you write:
So, there is an imperative for scientists to be informative to their peers and self-educating laypeople (not your average DailyMail or cable news consumer).
I think you’re conflating technical and popular writing. The aim of technical writing is to be clear. Popular writing for self-educating laypeople needs to be clear AND entertaining. Some people who are good at being clear aren’t necessarily good at the amusing bit… and that’s fine. Scientists need to read and understand new research in their field so – as a scientist – you don’t need to entertain your peers. Laypeople can choose to surf off a boring website and watch cable TV.
When scientists remove themselves from public relevance to the extent that they have (a marketing problem, to be sure), you start to see things like funding decline and loss of respect for scientific institutions in general.
I’m not sure I’m comfortable with scientific research being judged through ‘trial by public’. Some areas of science, e.g. non-applied semiconductor physics, aren’t relevant to the public. My husband tells me that one of the world’s leading communicators of basic semiconductor physics uses pictures of Britney Spears. That strikes me as desperation to communicate interesting science that’s irrelevant to the public.
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Hell, I enjoyed the exchange you two just had. Dammed interesting ; )
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