{"id":4799,"date":"2012-05-30T16:04:51","date_gmt":"2012-05-30T16:04:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/?p=4799"},"modified":"2012-05-30T16:06:24","modified_gmt":"2012-05-30T16:06:24","slug":"more-information-about-the-seti-river-landslide-and-debris-flood-in-nepal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/30\/more-information-about-the-seti-river-landslide-and-debris-flood-in-nepal\/","title":{"rendered":"More information about the Seti River landslide and debris flood in Nepal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over the last few days additional information has come to light about the <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/23\/understanding-the-seti-river-landslide-in-nepal\/\">Seti landslide in Nepal<\/a>, which killed between 30 and 72 people (I remain confused about the actual number of deaths in this case).\u00a0 I will summarise these below:<\/p>\n<h4>NASA imagery of the landslide and the track of the flow down the Seti River<\/h4>\n<p>Our colleagues at NASA have been very proactive in using their full range of satellite tools to collect imagery of this event.\u00a0 Their<a href=\"http:\/\/earthobservatory.nasa.gov\/IOTD\/view.php?id=78117\"> latest post examines the track of the landslide debris<\/a> and reinterprets the event.\u00a0 The magnitude of the impact of the debris and water wave is quite stark in their latest image:<\/p>\n<h4><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/30\/more-information-about-the-seti-river-landslide-and-debris-flood-in-nepal\/12_05-seti-nasa\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4800\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4800\" title=\"12_05 Seti NASA\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-NASA-e1338390921923.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" \/><\/a><\/h4>\n<h4><\/h4>\n<h4>An eyewitness report of the aftermath<\/h4>\n<p>Meanwhile, Robin Marston, a resident of Nepal, contacted me to let me know about the damage to Kharapani, which is shown in the image above.\u00a0 In his email he notes that:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The Kadoorie built suspension bridge near the top of the valley is at least 70 mts long and the valley (gorge) at that point is some 90 ms wide. The bridge lies some 30 -35 ms horizontally above the normal level of the river. There is flood debris lying on the bridge and side netting was damaged&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This image shows the bridge and the damage that it has received:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/30\/more-information-about-the-seti-river-landslide-and-debris-flood-in-nepal\/12_05-seti-4-2\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4801\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4801\" title=\"12_05 Seti 4\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-41.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-41.jpg 360w, https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-41-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a>This is the Kharapani area before the debris flood:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/30\/more-information-about-the-seti-river-landslide-and-debris-flood-in-nepal\/12_05-seti-5-2\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4802\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-4802\" title=\"12_05 Seti 5\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-51.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-51.jpg 800w, https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-51-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a>And this is the same place afterwards:<\/p>\n<h4><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/30\/more-information-about-the-seti-river-landslide-and-debris-flood-in-nepal\/12_05-seti-6\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4803\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4803\" title=\"12_05 Seti 6\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2012\/05\/12_05-Seti-6-e1338391881934.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" \/><\/a><\/h4>\n<h4><\/h4>\n<h4>An ICIMOD report on the landslide<\/h4>\n<p>Meanwhile, ICIMOD also sent a team into the field and they have been working on satellite images of the area in question.\u00a0 They have<a href=\"http:\/\/geoportal.icimod.org\/NAE\/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=318\"> correctly identified a landslide in the upper reaches of the Seti River<\/a> that progressively developed prior to the major collapse event, and speculate that it was responsible for the debris flood.\u00a0 This is a nice piece of work, but none of the imagery that I have seen indicates that a barrier lake was present (though to be fair detecting such a feature in this terrain may be very challenging).\u00a0 The coincidence in timing of the large landslide on Annapurna IV (timed using the seismic data and from the aerial images) and flood means that this is almost certainly the cause.\u00a0 However, this other landslide may well have contributed material and water to the debris flood, intensifying its impacts.<\/p>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h4>An alternative view of the event<\/h4>\n<p>Many of you will have seen the <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/23\/understanding-the-seti-river-landslide-in-nepal\/#comment-14892\">comments on my earlier post from Dr Ranjan Dahal<\/a>, who strongly indicated that in his opinion the interpretation that Colin Stark and I had made was incorrect.\u00a0 I exchanged emails with Dr Dahal, who I consider to be a friend, and he has now<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ranjan.net.np\/ranjan\/index.php\/in-english-seti\"> posted online a report and interpretation<\/a>.\u00a0 I will not comment on this interpretation, or indeed on the apparent references to our work, except to say that I <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2012\/05\/23\/understanding-the-seti-river-landslide-in-nepal\/\">stand by the interpretation that we have previously posted<\/a>.\u00a0 I would also note that I am not sure why there is a reference to seismic triggering of the landslide &#8211; I have seen no suggestion that this was a mechanism for the initiation of the failure.\u00a0 Colin&#8217;s work is based upon the seismic signature that the landslide generated, and this does not imply a seismic trigger (indeed quite the opposite).<\/p>\n<p>I will point out two really interesting aspects of Dr Dahal&#8217;s report though.\u00a0 First, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ranjan.net.np\/ranjan\/images\/setifloodeng\/Fig1Seti.jpg\">he provides a photograph of the landslide site<\/a> that shows the source of the rockfall that initiated the sequence.\u00a0 This location is entirely consistent with the satellite images that show a section of missing ridge after the event, although I am not sure that I would describe this event as small.\u00a0 Second, he also provides <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ranjan.net.np\/ranjan\/images\/setifloodeng\/Fig4seti.jpg\">an image of the canyons down which the landslide debris travelled<\/a> to reach the Seti river.<\/p>\n<h4>Mainstream media and the landslide<\/h4>\n<p>Finally, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thehimalayantimes.com\/fullNews.php?headline=Seti+flood+due+to+blockage%E2%80%9A+not+glacial+lake+outburst%3A+NA&amp;NewsID=330817#\">Himalayan Times in Nepal have posted an article on the Seti River debris flood<\/a> that heavily quotes the work that Colin and I have been undertaking on this event.\u00a0 It is nice to be quoted, even if the nationality of both of us has been changed!<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the last few days several new pieces of information about the Seti River landslide and flood have come to light<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on wp_trim_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on wp_trim_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":22,"featured_media":4800,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[469,959,66,25],"class_list":["post-4799","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-landslide-report","tag-featured","tag-landslide-report","tag-nepal","tag-satellite"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4799","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/22"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4799"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4799\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4800"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4799"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4799"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4799"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}