{"id":4051,"date":"2011-12-20T18:01:51","date_gmt":"2011-12-20T18:01:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/?p=4051"},"modified":"2011-12-20T22:06:32","modified_gmt":"2011-12-20T22:06:32","slug":"no-no-no-misconceptions-about-seismic-hazard-in-kashmir-and-what-the-literature-said-about-earthquake-hazard-in-haiti","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2011\/12\/20\/no-no-no-misconceptions-about-seismic-hazard-in-kashmir-and-what-the-literature-said-about-earthquake-hazard-in-haiti\/","title":{"rendered":"No! No! No! Misconceptions about seismic hazard in Kashmir (and what the literature said about earthquake hazard in Haiti)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"float: left;padding: 5px\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: 0\" src=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/public\/citation_icons\/rb2_large_gray.png\" alt=\"ResearchBlogging.org\" \/><\/a><\/span>One of the stories that emerged from the <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2011\/12\/09\/agu-days-2-and-3-some-notable-talks\/\">AGU Fall Meeting<\/a> was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.greaterkashmir.com\/news\/2011\/Dec\/10\/us-seismologist-warns-of-deadly-kashmir-quake-56.asp\">this report<\/a> about the potential for a further large earthquake in the Kashmir region of the Himalayas.\u00a0 This is work by the eminent seismologist <a href=\"http:\/\/cires.colorado.edu\/people\/bilham\/\">Roger Bilham<\/a> warning that Kashmir remains a region of high seismic hazard.\u00a0 The news reports, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/blogs\/shortsharpscience\/2011\/12\/megaquake-warning-for-the-high.html\">of which there were several<\/a>, was based on a paper presented at the AGU Fall Meeting, for which the abstract is as follows:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"7\" width=\"95%\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>ABSTRACT\u00a0 ID: <\/strong> T54B-06<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>TITLE: <\/strong> Velocity Field in the NW Himalayan Syntaxis: Implications for Future Seismicity<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>SESSION TYPE: <\/strong> Oral<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>SESSION TITLE: <\/strong> T54B. Earthquake Geology and Seismotectonics in South and East Asia IV<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>AUTHORS (FIRST NAME, LAST NAME): <\/strong> Roger G Bilham<sup>1<\/sup>, Walter  Szeliga<sup>1<\/sup>, Bikram Singh Bali<sup>2<\/sup>, Asif  Khan<sup>3<\/sup>, Abdul  Wahab<sup>3<\/sup>, Faisal  Khan<sup>3<\/sup>, Sufyan  Qazi<sup>3<\/sup><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><em>For the past eight years  we have monitored  crustal deformation in Ladakh, the Karakoram, Kohistan, Zanskar, Salt  Range and Pir Pinjal, using a combination of fixed and campaign GPS  measurements, to provide quantitative constraints on the rates of  convergence in the NW syntaxis of the Himalaya. We find a 13-17 mm  convergence rate with maximum SSW velocity gradients NE of the Kashmir  Valley beneath the Zanskar range, and maximum SSE directed gradients NW  of the Peshawar basin beneath the Kohistan range. <\/em><br \/>\n<em> The inferred  locking line appear to follow the 3.5 km contour as it does elsewhere  in the Himalaya, however, this results in a 200 km wide d\u00e9collement,  twice the width of the central Himalaya.  The SSE velocity of the Potwar  Plateau is 3 mm\/yr, significantly slower than the 6-12 mm\/yr inferred  from geological offsets along the Kalabagh fault in the past 10 My, and  hence an inferred slip deficit exists between the Kohistan Range and the  Salt Range. No great earthquakes are known in this area, and it is  unclear whether the deficit is annulled by accelerated salt-decollement  creep or by seismic rupture.  A brief period of accelerated creep  followed the 2005 Kashmir earthquake.<\/em><br \/>\n<em> Velocities across the  Kashmir Valley and Pir Pinjal are suggestive of a locked d\u00e9collement (no  creep) implying possible SE translation of the entire Kashmir Valley in  great earthquakes.  Were the segment of the Himalaya between the 2005  Kashmir Earthquake, and the Mw7.8 Kangra earthquake to slip 20 m in a  single earthquake, it could do so in a Mw=9.  No earthquake of this  severity is known, although the historical record includes several  earthquakes that may account for partial slip of the decollement.  Slip  on the Reasi fault north of the frontal Pir Pinjal range front can  account for less than half the observed convergence at this longitude,  and although no surface slip has been detected in the ranges fronting  the Punjab plains, we deduce that the frontal folds, and associated  blind thrusts, may absorb convergence of 5-9 mm\/yr. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Note a few things here.\u00a0 First, this is based on geodetic measurement &#8211; i.e. real data.\u00a0 Second, the abstract says (my emphasis): &#8220;<strong>were<\/strong> the segment of the Himalaya&#8230;to slip in a single earthquake, it <strong>could<\/strong> do so in a MW=9.&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>In the article linkled to above, this is translated into a quite measured piece about the potential for a large earthquake, and the likely consequences of such an event.\u00a0 This earthquake risk is very real, and urgently needs addressing through preparedness and measures such as improved building codes.\u00a0 This is not an issue that can be ducked.<\/p>\n<p>Today, two Pakistan newspapers (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thenews.com.pk\/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=83053&amp;Cat=2\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kashmirobserver.net\/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=9852:pak-expert-questions-kashmir-mega-quake-&amp;catid=4:world-news&amp;Itemid=5\">here<\/a>) are reporting a response from &#8220;the director of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pakmet.com.pk\/\">Pakistan Meteorological Department<\/a>, Director General Arif Mehmood that seeks to &#8220;downplay&#8221; the fears.\u00a0 The<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thenews.com.pk\/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=83053&amp;Cat=2\"> longer of the two articles<\/a> has a report of an interview with the Director General, including a direct quote from him (note both articles have essentially the same take on this topic):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Talking to this  scribe PMD Director General Arif Mehmood played down the findings about  any major earthquake in the Kashmir region and said the recent  earthquake in Haiti is a grim and embarrassing reminder that  seismologists cannot predict earthquakes.<\/p>\n<p>He said if anyone  predicts major earthquake anywhere in the world it means he tries to  over-simplify a much complicated issue because there is no evidence in  the recorded history that anyone was able to rightly predict any  earthquake before its occurrence. \u201cThe researchers have been doing  hectic work and may be sometime in future we are able to rightly predict  earthquakes but at the moment I am not ready to believe any such  prediction because no science or methodology is yet available to do so,\u201d  he said.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So where does one start with this stuff?\u00a0 Well, note that the Director General builds a strawman argument: &#8220;recent  earthquake in Haiti is a grim and embarrassing reminder that  seismologists cannot predict earthquakes&#8221;.\u00a0 Correct!\u00a0 However, Professor Bilham did not predict an earthquake &#8211; and indeed nor would he try.\u00a0 What he has done is to measure strain patterns, which are an indication of earthquake potential, and thus has estimated seismic hazard.\u00a0 And indeed Haiti provides a chilling warning to Kashmir, as two years before the earthquake Manaker <em>et al. <\/em>(2008) wrote:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Similarly, the Enriquillo fault in Haiti is currently capable of a M(w)7.2 earthquake if the entire elastic strain accumulated since the last major earthquake was released in a single event today&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This was not a prediction of an earthquake, but geodetic measurements being used to highlight seismic hazard.\u00a0 Note that the earthquake that occurred in 2010 was Mw=7.0, although it is now thought that it occurred on a different (parallel) fault system. \u00a0 So, this &#8220;downplaying&#8221; of the warning from Bilham is based on an entirely false premise.<\/p>\n<p>In the aftermath of the 2005 Kashmir earthquake I visited the area twice.\u00a0 So I finish this post with two pictures that I took of the aftermath of the earthquake.\u00a0 It is this that we are trying to prevent here .\u00a0 Rejection of legitimate, science-based warnings of seismic hazard do the population of potentially affected areas a huge disservice:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4052\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-4052\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2011\/12\/20\/no-no-no-misconceptions-about-seismic-hazard-in-kashmir-and-what-the-literature-said-about-earthquake-hazard-in-haiti\/minolta-digital-camera-27\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4052\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4052\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2011\/12\/PICT3130-e1324403015946.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4052\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Balakot<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_4053\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-4053\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2011\/12\/20\/no-no-no-misconceptions-about-seismic-hazard-in-kashmir-and-what-the-literature-said-about-earthquake-hazard-in-haiti\/minolta-digital-camera-28\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4053\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4053\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2011\/12\/PICT3095-e1324403119645.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4053\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nhelum Valley<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Reference:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"Z3988\" title=\"ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=Geophysical+Journal+International&amp;rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1111%2Fj.1365-246X.2008.03819.x&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fresearchblogging.org&amp;rft.atitle=Interseismic+Plate+coupling+and+strain+partitioning+in+the+Northeastern+Caribbean&amp;rft.issn=0956540X&amp;rft.date=2008&amp;rft.volume=174&amp;rft.issue=3&amp;rft.spage=889&amp;rft.epage=903&amp;rft.artnum=http%3A%2F%2Fdoi.wiley.com%2F10.1111%2Fj.1365-246X.2008.03819.x&amp;rft.au=Manaker%2C+D.&amp;rft.au=Calais%2C+E.&amp;rft.au=Freed%2C+A.&amp;rft.au=Ali%2C+S.&amp;rft.au=Przybylski%2C+P.&amp;rft.au=Mattioli%2C+G.&amp;rft.au=Jansma%2C+P.&amp;rft.au=Pr%C3%A9petit%2C+C.&amp;rft.au=de+Chabalier%2C+J.&amp;rfe_dat=bpr3.included=1;bpr3.tags=Geosciences%2Cearthquake+seismic+Haiti\">Manaker, D., Calais, E., Freed, A., Ali, S., Przybylski, P., Mattioli, G., Jansma, P., Pr\u00e9petit, C., &amp; de Chabalier, J. (2008). Interseismic Plate coupling and strain partitioning in the Northeastern Caribbean <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Geophysical Journal International, 174<\/span> (3), 889-903 DOI: <a rev=\"review\" href=\"http:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1111\/j.1365-246X.2008.03819.x\">10.1111\/j.1365-246X.2008.03819.x<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Pakistan Meteorological Department director has downplayed warnings of seismic hazard in Kashmir.  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