{"id":152,"date":"2010-05-04T11:18:00","date_gmt":"2010-05-04T11:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2010\/05\/04\/egu-day-2-morning-landslide-sessions\/"},"modified":"2010-10-21T13:35:47","modified_gmt":"2010-10-21T17:35:47","slug":"egu-day-2-morning-landslide-sessions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2010\/05\/04\/egu-day-2-morning-landslide-sessions\/","title":{"rendered":"EGU Day 2 &#8211; morning landslide sessions"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2010\/10\/10_05-EGU-logo.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2010\/10\/10_05-EGU-logo.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>For this year&#8217;s<a href=\"http:\/\/meetings.copernicus.org\/egu2010\/\"> EGU General Assembly<\/a> I intend to only blog on talks that really catch my eye.&nbsp; This morning there was a fabulous session on Landslide Forecasting with series of great talks.&nbsp; Of these,&nbsp; Samuele Segoni and colleagues presented a very interesting paper on a hugely ambitious project to develop a regional landslide warning system for Tuscany based on rainfall thresholds.&nbsp; The project appears to be extraordinarily successful \u2013 it appears to work with very few false alarms or missed forecasts.&nbsp; However, to do this the area had to be split into 25 warning zones, using c.330 rain gauges.&nbsp; As most such systems do, the approach uses an intensity \u2013 duration power law relationship. Thus, to make these systems work requires a huge infrastructure.&nbsp; Interestingly, now that it is clear that such a system can work from a technical perspective, the emphasis needs to shift to the societal problems of trying to disseminate warnings effectively, and getting people to react appropriately to them.&nbsp; That is a real challenge.<\/p>\n<p>The second paper that caught my attention was by Peter Lehmann and Dani Or, looking at precursor events in the initiation of landslides using concepts of self-organised criticality.&nbsp; Their starting point was that in the home country, Switzerland, 6% of landscape is prone to instability. In 2005 a rainfall event triggered over 1000 landslides, causing damage estimated at over $3 billion.&nbsp; Essentially they seek to explain landslide initiation by considering processes that provide a cascade effect, as in the sand pile models of criticality.&nbsp; Here they model the landslide as being controlled by fibres and fibre bundles, which are analogues of the loss of strength of the landslide material.&nbsp; They showed that precursor events can be observed as weakening and breakage of the bundles occurs, replicating observed behaviour.&nbsp; It was very neat and very interesting, and provided potentially important insights into failure initiation.<\/p>\n<p>Next up was Nejan Huvaj-Sarihan from Turkey, presenting her doctoral work undertaken at the University of Illinois.&nbsp; This was an experimental investigation of failure time prediction in landslides, using creep-rupture as the basic concept.&nbsp; She built a simple direct shear machine to investigate the creep-rupture process, and showed two key things:<br \/>1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; She observed creep at even very low shear stresses (&lt;20% peak strength).&nbsp; She used this to infer that all slopes creep, which is correct;<br \/>2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; She could initiate creep rupture failure when factor of safety was greater than one, but that the time to failure depended upon how close to FoS = 1 the system is.&nbsp; <br \/>Using this data she then explored whether failure prediction can be undertaken using the range of techniques available, concluding that it can in all three cases.&nbsp; This is a very neat study, although I am surprised to see creep-rupture in pre-sheared materials.<\/p>\n<p>During questions someone made the point that there is a \u201cgeotechnical disease\u201d to ignore the time element.&nbsp; This was a very provocative statement, but is quite correct.<\/p>\n<p>Oded Katz and his colleagues followed this up with a model based study that sought to look&nbsp; material disintegration in controlling the geometry and size of landslides.&nbsp; Again, this was a neat bit of work that came to some key conclusions.&nbsp; For me the most important one was that the power law roll-over in landslides is indicative of the change in material properties, and that the collapsing of the power law relationships onto each other occurs because there is such a narrow range of residual strengths available in natural systems.&nbsp; However, the talk also demonstrated beautifully that failure is associated with breakage of inter-particle bonds.&nbsp; Initiation of movement in the models occurred only when shear surface was fully developed through bond breakage, which links with the previous three presentations.<\/p>\n<p>Those three talks (Lehmann, Huvaj-Sarihan and Katz) together present an extraordinary level of insight into landslide processes that on their own justifies my attendance at the meeting.<\/p>\n<p>In the after coffee session I would like to highlight just one talk, that of Monique Fort and her colleagues on debris flow initiation in the Ghatte Khola watershed of Nepal.&nbsp; This watershed suffers extraordinary pre-monsoon rainfall events \u2013 she quoted a storm in 1974 that had over 300 mm of rainfall in an hour \u2013 can this really be right?&nbsp; Anyways this small ( 7.8 square kilometre) catchment generates debris flows that result from shallow slides that block the tributary valley, then collapse, creating flows.&nbsp; These in turn enter the main valley, which is then blocked in turn, and another flow occurs down the main channel.&nbsp; There are two interesting things here \u2013 first, how a small failure can initiate a bigger flow that in turn blocks the main valley, generating an even larger one \u2013 who would try to forecast hazards when this sort of situation occurs?&nbsp; Second, she highlighted the ignorance of road builders in Nepal to these processes, resulting in inappropriate designs that then fail in the next storm.&nbsp; This is a hobby-horse of mine; I could not agree with Monique more.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For this year&#8217;s EGU General Assembly I intend to only blog on talks that really catch my eye.&nbsp; 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