{"id":14943,"date":"2015-04-20T06:41:34","date_gmt":"2015-04-20T06:41:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/?p=14943"},"modified":"2015-04-20T06:41:34","modified_gmt":"2015-04-20T06:41:34","slug":"bolshaya-talda-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2015\/04\/20\/bolshaya-talda-1\/","title":{"rendered":"The Bolshaya Talda earthflow in Russia was a mine waste failure"},"content":{"rendered":"<h5>The Bolshaya Talda earthflow<\/h5>\n<p>Many thanks to those who have helped to uncover the facts behind the amazing Bolshaya Talda earthflow in Russia, <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2015\/04\/17\/russian-earthflow-1\/\">which was filmed in the amazing video about which I blogged late last week<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1gSDgZaHvtg\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n.<\/p>\n<p>A couple of people emailed to suggest, and <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2015\/04\/17\/russian-earthflow-1\/#comment-105233\">Brett Gilley noted in comments<\/a>,\u00a0 that this might be a mine waste landslide, based on the materials involved, the appearance of the hills in the background and the presence of heavy equipment.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2015\/04\/17\/russian-earthflow-1\/#comment-105285\">In comments on the original post, Michal cracked it though<\/a>:<\/p>\n<div class=\"comment-entry\">\n<blockquote><p>My Russian wife Vera found it all on the net and where the news came from.<br \/>\nThe land slide was on a road between Novokuznetsk and Bolshaya Talda where there is also a railline along the road which is 1500km East of the Urals so not Western Russia. The land slide took place at 1pm local time, my wife can tell from the dialect that it is same as in this part of Russia also.<br \/>\nAbout 280km ESE of Novosibirsk, near Novokuznetsk. The name Zarechnyi is a very common name and could even be a local name for a mine or tiny settlement you might not find on a map.<br \/>\nSearch in Google Earth Russia, Kemerovo Oblast, Bolshaya Talda.<br \/>\nThe landslide looks like it may have come from a large coal mine area. There are some diggings there like in the Hunter Valley in NSW Australia.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>Whilst it is difficult to be certain, the most likely location appears to me to be at\u00a0 about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.co.uk\/maps\/place\/Unnamed+Rd,+Kemerovskaya+oblast%27,+Russia,+653208\/@54.1422003,87.1068692,5510m\/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x42d7369399aadba3:0x38aa09d05c27b5ec\">54.144, 87.098<\/a>.\u00a0 This site has all of the correct characteristics, including the appearance of the topography, the presence of the high voltage cables and the structure of the road:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_14944\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2015\/04\/15_04-Russia-2-e1429510335659.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14944\" class=\"size-full wp-image-14944\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2015\/04\/15_04-Russia-2-e1429510335659.jpg\" alt=\"Bolshaya Talda\" width=\"640\" height=\"396\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-14944\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Google Earth<\/p><\/div>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>The image above is dated 8th September 2014.\u00a0 There is also an image from 9th September 2013 of the same site:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_14945\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2015\/04\/15_04-Russia-3-e1429510524508.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14945\" class=\"size-full wp-image-14945\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/files\/2015\/04\/15_04-Russia-3-e1429510524508.jpg\" alt=\"Bolshaya Talda\" width=\"640\" height=\"413\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-14945\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Google Earth<\/p><\/div>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>A comparison between the two images suggests that there has been recent active storage of waste at this site.\u00a0 The video suggests that it was this waste that collapsed to generate the landslide.\u00a0 It was fortunate that the failure occurred in the daytime and in an area with no houses. Of course, landslides like this should be avoidable &#8211; the mining industry is still associated with far too many landslides.\u00a0 Recent examples include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2014\/07\/10\/shawa-mudslide-2\/\">The Shawa landslide in China<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2013\/04\/17\/more-information-on-the-disastrous-mining-induced-landslide-in-tibet-a-fortnight-ago\/\">The Jiana\/Gyama landslide in Tibet<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2013\/04\/12\/the-unusually-large-bingham-canyon-mine-landslide-an-impressive-example-of-prediction-using-monitoring\/\">The Bingham Canyon landslide in Utah<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2013\/03\/04\/new-images-of-the-hatfield-colliery-coal-mine-landslide-in-northern-england\/\">The Hatfield Colliery landslide in England<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2011\/03\/09\/the-astonishing-collolar-coalfield-landslide-in-turkey\/\">The Collolar landslide in Turkey<\/a><\/li>\n<li>And of course <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.agu.org\/landslideblog\/2011\/10\/21\/remembering-the-aberfan-disaster-45-years-ago-today\/\">the Aberfan landslide in Wales<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And there are many more.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to everyone who helped to unpick the riddle of this landslide.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Bolshaya Talda earthflow, which I featured on this blog on Friday was a mine waster landslide. 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